In Or Out? Et Al.

Everyone who knows me knows that squirrels would be a giant OUT! This video shows one of those “rats with better PR” being treated better than it deserves. Squirrels are part of the order Rodentia (from the Latin Rodere, meaning “to gnaw”), the same group to which mice and rats belong.

 

 

 

Also a giant OUT! are those AWFUL Limu Emu and Doug commercials. I won’t even mention the insurance company. The ads are brain-dead, mind-numbingly stupid. On those occasions when we are watching “live” TV, as opposed to something recorded on the DVR, if any of those commercials begins to air I hit Pause, back up the telecast a few frames to before the beginning of the “ad,” count to 15 or 20 and then fast-forward without looking at the screen. Given the large population of this country I’m sure millions of people think the ads are great. For me, an ad campaign that has one commercial where an animatronic emu vomits office supplies is beyond awful. If you’re wondering (or even if you’re not), I couldn’t get to the remote fast enough to avoid seeing that commercial.

 

OK…Philip Maynard suggested this car for In Or Out? so here it is:

 

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From the Mecum Monterey Auction in 2014, a picture of a 1967 Sunbeam Tiger MkII. Whether Philip knew it or not, I am a big fan of these cars.

These are often called the Poor Man’s Cobra. The Tiger was also designed, at least in part, by Carroll Shelby and featured an American V-8 stuffed into a small British roadster, in this case the Sunbeam Alpine from the Rootes Group. The MkII spec had the famous Ford 289 cubic-inch V-8 while the MkI had the less famous 260 cubic-inch V-8. Only 633 of the MkII were made and only in the final year of Tiger production, 1967. About 7,000 Sunbeam Tigers were produced in total.

I’m guessing that the MkII engine had the same output as the base V-8 Mustang engine for 1967: 200 HP/282 LB-FT of torque. As the MkII only weighed about 2,600 pounds that’s a good power-to-weight ratio.

Alright, people…Sunbeam Tiger MkII, In Or Out?

 

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18 thoughts on “In Or Out? Et Al.

  1. Of course, I will vote In, since it is my suggestion. I saw one on these in the wild in the late 1960’s. Am I showing my age? A sweet little car which was a Mark I version with the 260 cu. in. V-8. The Tiger had a price tag which was higher than the Mustang at the time so that hurt sales. The sale of the Rootes group, parent of the Sunbeam company, to Chrysler doomed the car as Chrysler did not want to sell a car with a Ford engine and Chrysler’s small block V-8 was too big to shoehorn into the Alpine. A little bit of trivia on the Ford small-block Windsor engine: the original displacement was 221 cu. in. 3.5 in. bore with the 2.87 in. stroke. The 221, 260, 289 displacements all share the same 2.87 in. stroke. The Ford small block is referred to as the Windsor as it was produced in the Ford Windsor, Ontario engine plant across the river in Canada from Detroit. The engine in my truck project is a variant of the engine only mine is 427 cu. in. displacement nut that I am.

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  2. I’m out. Too small. You mentioned the Toyota MR2 a while back. I once had to ride in NN’s MR2 with FK. Mathematically impossible.
    (If The VP who is a VIP goes MIA we could all end up on KP.)

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    1. Thanks, Adrian Cronauer. Vote is 4-2 In for the Tiger. The Tiger now has the most total votes for In Or Out? and I assume (always a dangerous thing) that voting is not finished.

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    1. Very good, sir. Not surprised by your vote, but glad you took the time to express your opinion. It’s now 5-2 In for the Tiger.

      I also like V-8s in small cars, but they don’t have to be large displacement engines. I think anything bigger than the Ford 289 would have ruined the balance of these cars. That’s why, in purely theoretical mode since I don’t think I will ever own one, I would rather have a small-block C2 Corvette than a big-block. Yes, I am a heretic.

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      1. I appreciate both small and big blocks for what they offer. If you value handling a small block is definitely the way to go.And they can be built to amazing power levels.

        Additionally: I also despise tree rats. 15 years ago in an older house I was repairing while living in it, at least one gnawed thru into the attic and stole around $100 worth of insulation. Somewhere, out in the surrounding woods, was a giant pink squirrel condo based on how much was stolen.

        I immediately declared jihad on them little thieves. All tree rats must die. LOL(kinda)

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      2. Appreciate your open-mindedness about engine displacement. I don’t want to just go fast in a straight line. The “small block” engine in my Z06, I’m pretty sure the LT4 is a small-block, is probably producing 700-710 HP and 710-720 LB-FT of torque from 376 cubic inches/6.2 liters.

        One of my wonderful wife’s co-workers lives on 20 acres in upstate New York. His beautiful barn burned to the ground, a $50,000 loss, because a tree rat (as you so aptly described them) chewed through electrical wiring. He is also an armed ex-cop; now, he simply shoots any squirrel he sees on his property. Wish I could do the same…

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